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By Richard Andreoli
Comedians Kathy Najimy and Mo Gaffney discuss their 20 years
together and their upcoming reunion benefiting L.A.'s Gay & Lesbian
Center
It's hard to keep a good legend down, particularly when
it involves Kathy Najimy and Mo Gaffney, the acclaimed feminist
comedy team better known as Kathy & Mo to both gay and
straight fans across America. This powerhouse duo rose from
small cabaret stages in San Diego to a successful off-Broadway
run, followed by numerous tours and two HBO specials. Then
in 1991 the two parted ways, but was the split a dramatic
episode of enraged screams and torn clothing, or simply a
necessary vacation? What brought the duo back together last
year, both on Broadway and then to the L.A. Gay & Lesbian
Center? And what reunites them at the Center once more for
two special benefit performances on Sept. 23 and 24? For
answers, the ladies covered their 20-plus years of history
to recount the torrid tale from the beginning.
"Kathy was in jail, and at that time I was a visiting
nun," explains Gaffney as she snacks from a can of low-fat
Pringles in between drags on her cigarette. "We would
try to keep their spirits up."
Okay, that's not true. Reality was far more dramatic.
"Mo was my friend Cecilia's roommate, and I had heard
she was this really funny woman," recalls Najimy of
her early days in San Diego. "Then one night their apartment
burned down. I suspect there was a cigarette involved, they
say it was a candle, I still don't know the truth." Though
some mystery remains, what is known is that Gaffney and her
roommate crashed at Najimy's apartment, and while Cecilia
slept, Najimy and Gaffney partied. "We stayed up all
night making fire jokes, singing songs, doing characters
and improv," Najimy laughs.
"I was in my early 20s, what did I have to lose, really?
Nothing," interjects Gaffney; actually, the interviews
were conducted separately, but if she could have interjected,
it would have been now. "Maybe a cute top got burned
or something, but I wasn't heartbroken."
"It was hilarious," Najimy says. "We really
clicked in a way that I had never clicked creatively with
anybody ever."
From there the duo began creating characters, including
Maddie and Syvvie, two well-meaning New Yorkers who have
been friends for 47 years. Najimy and Gaffney would improvise
the old women's conversations just to make each other laugh,
but when they were asked to perform at an AIDS benefit, they
decided to bring the two ladies to the stage.
"We didn't plan anything, write anything, we had no
costumes," says Najimy. "I would break out into
hives unless I had a complete script to go on stage with
now, but in those days, who knew? We were just stupid and
young."
Perhaps, but Maddie and Syvvie were a huge success and
soon Najimy and Gaffney became known as "Kathy & Mo." They
would sit on the roof of Gaffney's new apartment eating Twix
bars and drinking Diet Cokes while writing about lesbian
feminist poetry groups, and angels with slightly different
views of creationism. They performed at places like The Flame,
a San Diego gay bar, and the Old Town Opera House, until
the day Najimy was offered a transfer to New York through
her job at the phone company. From there, the two quickly
headed toward The Great White Way É or at least somewhere
nearby.
"We started doing 1 a.m. shows at Don't Tell Mamma
-- which is another gay bar and a theme throughout the story
-- and then at The Second Stage, a little off-Broadway [house]," Najimy
recalls. Soon Kathy & Mo was touring, scoring larger
off-Broadway runs, and eventually their two HBO specials
materialized.
"You write what you know, and since we're political
creatures and feminists, that came out in our writing," Gaffney
observes, pointing out that being funny also goes along with
that sensibility.
"We're not running around like dour dollies going, ÔOoh,
it's too bad about the gays... Too bad about abortionÉ'
That's not how we write. We're funny people when we're hanging
around each other, that's how we view life. But tinged with
that is a feeling of responsibility about the things that
go on around us, about the people we love or the people we
are. So that's how the show [developed]."
Then in 1991, after completing their commitments to HBO
and various theaters, Najimy and Gaffney broke up their act,
but it wasn't nearly as dramatic as is often portrayed in
the media. "We were not getting along, it had been 10
years of looking at each other and working together and I
really didn't want to be Kathy & Mo my whole life," Najimy
says. "It was really scary to break up but things worked
out."
Kathy & Mo finally did return to off-Broadway last
year at The Second Stage in New York. There was no major
reunion, per se -- the two have remained friends even after
the show's end -- but the audience turnout was so sensational
that the two decided to release a DVD that includes both
of their HBO specials plus hours of unseen footage from their
entire career. However, there was a slight glitch with that
plan.
"The two new pieces we wrote for this last tour weren't
filmed," explains Najimy, and in order to make the DVD
a true definitive history of their career they approached
Jon Imparato, director of the Lily Tomlin/Jane Wagner Cultural
Arts Program at the L.A. Gay and Lesbian Center, to use his
stage for a taping. Imparato explained that the net proceeds
from all performances help the Center provide everything
from free and low-cost health, mental health, HIV/AIDS treatment
and prevention, to legal, social, educational services, and
beyond. This easily tapped into the duo's political/activist
spirit and they agreed to perform a benefit show. "That
started our relationship with Jon," says Najimy. "And
we had such a great experience that when he said he had another
opening in September, we said sure."
Thus the legend of Kathy & Mo continues, but as Najimy
and Gaffney revisit their characters it's with a renewed
excitement, knowing that they now bring different perspectives
to their own writing and that translates to both their performances
and the audience's reception. "Besides, it's a benefit," says
Najimy. "It's not for fame, it's not for money, it's
clearly for the Gay Center and because we're enjoying being
together."
The Kathy & Mo Show will run at The Village at Ed Gould
Plaza, 1125 N. McCadden Pl., L.A.,Friday and Saturday, Sept.
23-24, at 8 p.m. For more information, call (323) 860-7300.
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